Alexey Dyumin gave his first interview to regional TV channels. "Turned out to be Putin's infantryman." Alexey Dyumin's first interview after appointment

On May 11, the First Tulsky TV channel showed an interview with the Acting Governor of the Tula Region Alexei Dyumin, which he gave to regional TV channels. Here is a transcript of this conversation:

E. Kiryanova: Today, for the first time on television, we are talking with the Acting Governor of the Tula Region Alexei Dyumin. Alexey Gennadievich, hello!

A. Dyumin: Good afternoon!

A. Gubarev: May 11 is exactly 100 days since you took office. We can say the first serious anniversary. Today we would like to talk with you about what those days were like, what has changed in your life, what has worked out, and what has not yet been enough time.

E. Kiryanova: But first, a short look back at how it all began in February this year.

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Announcer: On February 2, in Novo-Ogaryovo, Vladimir Putin announced: Alexei Dyumin has been appointed Acting Governor of the Tula Region. The President notes: the region where we have to work is difficult.

A. Dyumin: The choice of my candidacy is a huge confidence of the President. I would like to assure you that I will do my best to justify him.

Announcer: After taking office, Alexey Dyumin identifies the main pain points: the condition of roads and housing stock in the region, wage arrears, and healthcare. Each meeting with members of the government begins not with the usual report, but with the appeal of a specific person from a specific locality. Then he addresses this complaint to the one who is responsible for a particular area. Such a scheme of work is introduced already two weeks after the appointment. Deals with problems on the ground in the districts.

A. Dyumin: It is clear that there are a lot of questions. There are no wizards here. We must all understand each other. But there are burning issues that need to be addressed immediately.

Announcer: Alexey Dyumin's first trip to Teplo-Ogarevsky district. People are asking for help with the repair of the roof of the secondary school, rural roads, gasification of houses, and new equipment for the gym. The interim Governor is ready to negotiate with the management of the gas company himself, promises to help finance the renovation of the local school and the central boiler house. And in a few weeks exercise equipment is brought to the gym. Instructions were given on all issues. Specialized officials monitor their implementation. Not to promise the impossible, not to say empty words, only concrete actions - Alexey Dyumin repeats this to his team, explains the position of the legislative branch.

A. Dyumin: We need concrete, well-thought-out decisions, not empty chatter.

Announcer: It is also not the quantity that is important, but the quality - the main wish of Dyumin at the meeting with the Tula deputies about the future joint work, because the task for all is the same - to raise the standard of living of the population of the Tula region.

E. Kiryanova: Alexey Gennadievich, we have just watched footage that has already become history. This is your presentation as an interim, your meeting with the deputies of the Tula Regional Duma, your trips to the districts. Have you changed during this time?

A. Dyumin: It is difficult for me to judge whether I have changed, but my life, of course, has changed. A lot of trips, a lot of meetings on duty. And I want to tell you that there are a lot of tasks and a lot of questions that need to be done immediately, that are ripe, that arise instantly. It was someone's roof that started leaking, which also needs to be paid attention to, and, believe me, as the acting governor, sometimes you have to manually resolve this issue at the request of residents. These are salary arrears at enterprises, which also need to be paid attention to, this is also a very serious indicator for the region as a whole. These are things that are associated with orders at large enterprises that have their own centuries-old traditions. Full of questions. The system should work. I think we will come to this. Today, it is much more efficient to manage and solve certain tasks in a manual mode under the direct control of the acting Governor. The team understands this, and I also understand this. We are fighting for this efficiency.

A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, in your hundred days you have visited more than half of the region's districts. Do you have a holistic impression of the region, how do you see its further development and what potential?

A. Dyumin: I want to say that you yourself perfectly understand what region we live in. There's crazy potential here. First of all - human. Of course, industrial, economic, spiritual, if you like. This is a huge layer of culture that feeds us. It energizes us, gives us a certain impetus for good deeds, for the development of the Tula region. We will work in this direction. The defense-industrial complex and education should become points of growth. All these priorities will be spelled out in detail and laid down in the Program for the Development of the Tula Region for 2016-2021.

E. Kiryanova: On March 23, you spoke about the need to create a Development Program for the Tula Region until 2021. How did you come up with the idea of \u200b\u200bcreating this Program? Why is it needed?

A. Dyumin: The idea arose because working without a goal and a plan is the same as sailing without a rudder and sail. Or, as the military says: a good strategy is already half the victory. Moreover, the country has a difficult economic situation. And not only in Russia, but throughout the world can be traced. The plan allows you not only to guess the future, but also to build it. And the main goal, as I said, is to improve the quality of life of our citizens. To put it in a simple way, it is so that the residents feel protected and have all the opportunities for a dignified life from birth to old age. So that the child can be arranged in a kindergarten, so that the school is nearby, and not in the neighboring area, so that the institute can go and enter not only in Moscow and St. And after graduation, you know where you will go to work, what you will live on, what you will feed your family, how to raise children, take care of the elderly. The program should answer all these and other questions.

A. Gubarev: You have repeatedly emphasized that the final version of the Program will be implemented only taking into account the ideas and opinions of the Tula people. The last month and a half there has been an active discussion at the meetings of the expert groups and I propose to see how it was.

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Announcer: How the Tula region will change in the coming years will be determined by the program of the region's socio-economic development. Work on it began on March 23rd. The result should be a specific plan with tasks, deadlines and responsible persons. The main goal of the document is to improve the quality of life of Tula people.

A. Nikitin (General Director of the Agency for Strategic Initiatives): The development of such a strategy in itself will greatly push the Tula region forward. That is, Tula will be one of the locomotives. Other regions can learn something here.

M. Kudanov (resident of Tula): This entire historical center, from the All Saints Cemetery, then limited to Lenin Avenue and Kaminsky Street, is very beautiful. We have a great opportunity to do tourist and historical Tula here.

Announcer: 15 expert groups are working on the Program. They include specialists from various fields, representatives of the public. At the first stage, in the course of open discussions, the main tasks were formulated. On the second, expert groups worked at enterprises. We went to the fields to discuss the development of agriculture, for example, to one of the largest potato farms in the region “Maksim Gorky” in the Chernsk region. The problems of all agricultural producers are the same - improving the quality of products and selling them. The farmers agree: many issues cannot be resolved alone, they need to unite.

F. Romanovsky (director of LLC PH Lazarevskoe): Cooperation is needed to help in the collection of products, to help bring them into a marketable condition. Nothing happens by itself.

Announcer: More than 30 meetings, dozens of proposals - this is the intermediate result of the work of expert groups on the program of socio-economic development of the region.

I. Davletshina (founder of the Museum of Entertaining Sciences "Experimentoria"): When the authorities go out to people and talk openly with them, they ask: let's do something - it's very cool.

K. Danilov (head of the Rostec representative office in Tula): The most important thing is that all these proposals, which were voiced today, I hope, will be implemented, were not formalized, had concrete, productive, and most importantly, final goals.

Announcer: The most interesting ideas were discussed at the meeting of the expert council. At the table, not only the leaders of specialized groups are invited, ordinary residents are also invited, those who sent their proposals. More than three hundred of them have already been received on the 71.tularegion.ru portal. The work on the Program of social and economic development of the region continues.

A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, what are the next steps in developing the Development Program?

A. Dyumin: On April 28, we held the first meeting of the expert council, which is now working on this strategic document. As a result, I instructed to hold a discussion of the Program in all municipalities of the region, so that each district and each municipal formation would see themselves and their future in it. The Program must include proposals from residents of each city and region. By the end of May, prepare a draft Program and a specific action plan for it with clear tasks, deadlines responsible for their implementation. Conduct a certain analysis and assessment of the proposals of our experts in terms of financial and economic justification. Also prepare a draft investment strategy for the region. In short, to understand how much funds are needed to implement the proposals, what they will be used for, where we will attract. We collect these proposals from residents of the region. I plan to meet personally with the authors of the best ideas. In June, we will present the draft Program to the general public. So far, everything is going according to plan. I hope it will.

E. Kiryanova: You presented the Program on March 23, then 50 days have passed since you took office. On May 11, it is exactly one hundred days since you are the Acting Governor of the Tula Region. What decisions made during this time do you think are the most important?

A. Dyumin: Today I can speak not only about the decisions, but also about the important events that have taken place over these three months. One of the most significant - on May 6, together with the Minister of Defense Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu, we laid the foundation stone of the Tula Suvorov military school. Construction will take place in several stages. The Ministry of Defense plans to complete the first stage by the beginning of the academic year. An educational building, a canteen, a medical building, two dormitories for 160 cadets, and a fitness center will be erected. The first recruitment of cadets will take place in September. It is important that the education that children receive in such educational institutions is an order of magnitude higher in level than in others. I believe that the revival of the Suvorov Military School is a historic event for Tula.

E. Kiryanova: Alexey Gennadievich, it is May now. The Suvorov School will accept the first children on September 1. How realistic is it in general to build such a complex in 4 months?

A. Dyumin: You know, taking into account the most powerful department, the Russian Ministry of Defense, and knowing who is now in charge of this department, I want to say that there are no impossible tasks. In Crimea, the Sevastopol School is of the same order, only the infrastructure was a little more, it was built in 150 days! Can you imagine ?! Communication was given to build the school in 150 days, and it was built in 150 days. And their cadets entered the classrooms a year ago and the educational process began.

A. Dyumin: Absolutely! I think so and hope so.

A. Gubarev: Will they be training cadres from all over Russia to the Suvorov School?

A. Dyumin: Yes, this program is all-Russian. Naturally, we would like to see that we have some priorities for admission, but there are no such priorities, and will not be. And our guys will do it on a general basis. We have all the possibilities in our hands. The native walls of the house help.

A. Gubarev: Where can I find the teaching staff?

A. Dyumin: This recruitment will be carried out by the Ministry of Defense under a special competitive program.

A. Gubarev: Alexei Gennadievich, the construction of the Suvorov Military School, as well as most of the items in the Regional Development Program, require serious financial resources. It follows from this that the priority is probably still on the development of the economy. What steps do you see in the economic strengthening of our, still subsidized region?

A. Dyumin: Let's start with the budget. Today we have achieved that the region does not have commercial loans. It is important. They are fully repaid. The rates on commercial loans are ten times higher than on federal loans. We had loans in the amount of 3.5 billion rubles. We extinguished them. As a result, they saved 170 million rubles. Now this money will be spent on social programs. And in order for this to happen, we have obtained two loans from the federal budget. The first - 4.7 billion rubles, the second - 500 million rubles.

E. Kiryanova: In March, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed an order approving projects to create industrial parks. The Tula park "Uzlovaya" was also among the 15 projects. The text of the Decree states that the provision of state support for these projects will allow by 2020 to provide jobs throughout the country for more than 50 thousand people and increase revenues to the budgets of all levels by 67 billion rubles. But this is on the scale of Russia. And what will the "Uzlovaya" of the Tula region give?

A. Dyumin: This is exactly the case when we are working for the future. You should not wait for a momentary result. The state distributes subsidies for the creation of industrial parks. In three years, we will be reimbursed almost 700 million rubles. What is this money for? So that we supply electricity, build roads, railways, create conditions for residents. For those who come and will build their own production in Uzlovaya. Our park can accommodate up to 40 residents. In addition, in the Uzlovsky region, we have also achieved the creation of a special economic zone. A resolution on this has also been signed. And these are additional benefits - tax and customs. That is, we will create conditions under which it is profitable to come to us, invest money in the creation of production. What do we get in return? The enterprises that will be created in Uzlovaya will pay taxes to our budget. We assume that the amount may reach 8 billion, and Tula people will come to work at the enterprises. The forecast is the creation of up to 3,000 jobs. And, of course, these are investments in the region's economy up to 17 billion.

I emphasize once again - this is a perspective. In order to achieve results, you need to work hard and efficiently. But we have already taken the first step. All resolutions have been signed.

A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, yes, indeed, Tula people very often talk about Uzlova, in particular, about the car plant under construction there. Is it really only on it and everything will stop? Should we wait for large investment projects with a big name?

A. Dyumin: We have begun a large and serious work on the preparation of major investment agreements with a number of companies. Among them are the state corporations Rosneft and Rostec. And private companies too. It is important to understand that attracting a strategic investor is a rather long process. It's not worth talking about this in advance, but I think that I will announce the first results after the St. Petersburg Economic Forum. It will take place in mid-June and a delegation from the Tula region will take part in it.

E. Kiryanova: In what direction will cooperation with state corporations take place? For example, you mentioned Rostec ...

A. Dyumin: We have agreed on a strategic partnership with Rostec. Rostec, together with the Agency for Strategic Initiatives and the WorldSkills Union, prepared a project for a new educational space in the center of Tula based on the Octava plant. This summer, the WorldSkills corporate championship will be held at the Higher School site, and I hope it will become an annual event. What is the plus for the Tula? Our guys, college students, will be able not only to compete, but also to exchange experience with the Rostec teams that will come from various regions. This is, in principle, good practice - new approaches, professional development, exchange of experience.

A. Gubarev: Now I propose to talk about the appearance of the regional capital, about how our Tula looks like. There is, of course, something to be proud of - a beautiful Kremlin, a landscaped park, but there are a lot of such uncomfortable moments. You have already mentioned the Oktava plant - this is a rather large area, and as far as I know, it is not fully used and looks clearly unpresentable. Have a solution already?

A. Dyumin: Of course there is! The historical center of Tula is very beautiful. It needs to be developed, restored, given a new meaning ... Therefore, another project that can be implemented in this building is the Quantorium children's park. Let me remind you that this project is one of the first that we agreed on within the framework of a strategic partnership with the Agency for Strategic Initiatives. The technopark will be able to receive additional education for schoolchildren who have shown excellent results in the field of chemistry, physics, mathematics. Not only from Tula, but from the whole region. Funds for the creation of "Quantorium" will be allocated, including by the Ministry of Education of Russia, and directed to the purchase of equipment - the most modern machine tools, 3D printers, which will be used in the education process. In addition to the educational space, I would like to fill the building with other interesting projects, but this is still in the future.

A. Gubarev: Will it look beautiful outwardly?

A. Dyumin: I think so.

E. Kiryanova: One of the first places that you visited was the Tula Children's Regional Clinical Hospital. Then you said that you would support the construction of two new buildings. Is there any news on this project?

A. Dyumin: I couldn't say otherwise. Now we are working to include the construction of facilities in the federal targeted investment program of Russia for 2017. Some of the approvals have already been received. We will talk about the final decision closer to autumn, but we are doing everything for this.

A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, from health to demography. One of the main features of our region is that a third of the region's population are people of retirement and pre-retirement age. How much attention will you pay to older people?

A. Dyumin: I am grateful to the Tula Regional Duma for supporting my initiative and adopting several socially significant bills. They are associated with caring for the older generation. From June 1 of this year, single unemployed people who have reached the age of 70 will receive compensation for capital repairs in the amount of 50 percent, those who are 80 years old - in the amount of 100 percent. Since May 1, residents of the region over 75 years old can buy train tickets at half price - this 50 percent discount on travel on regional trains is enshrined in law. We have resolved the issue of providing housing for veterans of the Great Patriotic War. All those who were supposed to improve their living conditions received subsidies and corresponding letters of guarantee. We have been allocated money from the federal budget to provide housing for 63 veterans, and we have 80 of them. Therefore, we adopted a corresponding law that will allow this year to improve the living conditions of all veterans.

E. Kiryanova: Alexey Gennadievich, I will return to the topic of your trips to the regions. You promised to build a football field in Novomoskovsk.

A. Dyumin: Not just a football field, but with artificial turf, heated and also with a number of sports infrastructure around this field. I think you will see him soon. This football field will open on the City Day.

E. Kiryanova: So anyone can now come up to you and say: "Alexey Gennadievich, can we also have a football field, we don't have it?"

A. Dyumin: The sports development program is working. Today, according to the priority lists, we are able to find funds not only from the federal and regional budgets, but also by attracting sponsorship money for the construction of stadiums and sports and recreation centers. Recently, you know, a modern sports and recreation center was opened under the Gazprom for Children program. Gazprom plans to open an ice rink in Tula. We are planning to open mini-stadiums, various flat structures. This program is working, this program is on. Naturally, we pay close attention to those corners where the sports infrastructure is not developed. We will use an additional resource there.

A. Gubarev: Aleksey Gennadievich, but they ask not only about stadiums ... When you visit the districts, a lot of people come up to you and ask you to solve some minor problems, as well as broader ones. How do you manage to solve them? Where to get the funds, because the budget is not rubber?

A. Dyumin: On my initiative, the Perspektiva Tula Region Development Fund was created. The foundation has practically started its work. Its founders are three public organizations. This money is off-budget - people who are not indifferent to the fate of Tula and the region. These are patrons and sponsors whom we actively attract and seek. After all, the importance of the development of the Tula region is important for us, and not only for us, but for the whole country as a whole, because those strategic enterprises, those clusters of metallurgy and chemical industries. This is a very important strategic indicator for the country.

E. Kiryanova: Can you already announce any specific affairs of the fund?

A. Dyumin: In principle, yes. As a result of our working trips to the districts, meetings, problems arise that we, with the help of this fund, can solve pointwise, targeted and efficiently. Of course, you can go along the budgetary line, but this will require a certain order of procedures, which artificially and according to standards will stretch the solution of problems. I can list, I have specially written out examples here, such as repairing the roof at the Teplo-Ogarevskaya secondary school, which is in a deplorable state. Repair of the roof in the Nadezhdinskaya school of the Dubensky district, the purchase of a bus for the students of the Resurrection school in the Dubensky district, the restoration of the House of Culture in the Mishenskoye village of the Belevsky district, and other cases that were not included in the list, but the fund is working on them. I think that the first results will appear within this month.

E. Kiryanova: Alexey Gennadievich, your hundred days have been marked by quite resonant events. Let us recall the situation in the village of Plekhanovo. How are things going with illegal Roma houses now?

A. Dyumin: The situation that is taking place in Plekhanovo is obvious. Everything will go according to the law. On the 20th, the deadline for the voluntary demolition of buildings expired. Now the city administration has made a "road map" to address this issue. The head of the city controls this issue, and I also keep it under control. Most importantly, everything will go according to the law. If there is a court order on the demolition of illegal buildings, this will be done. Most importantly, I communicated with the residents. They are offended not by illegal tapping into gas, but by the fact that for someone the law is written, for someone - no, someone is responsible for the law, and someone is not, someone pays for gas and electricity , and someone does not pay.

A. Gubarev: The situation in Plekhanovo is an emergency, but there are enough problems in the current regime. What are the most basic ones, in your opinion?

A. Dyumin: Not only I think. They are there. You know that the main problems in Russia are always fools and roads. Here is the address of the President on the "Direct Line" with the population on the first issue of roads. Naturally, the problems of our region, they are linked to the problems of the regions and Russia as a whole. These are education, medicine, the availability of medicine, these are the problems of housing and communal services and, of course, these are our roads. There are problems in the region with wage arrears at some enterprises - due to economic deterioration. There are questions to the management companies that perform the functions assigned to them in bad faith. There are questions such as the return of agricultural land. At one time they bought it for three kopecks, and now they sit in Moscow or in other cities - neither for themselves nor for people. We also have this problem: about 30 percent of such lands that are not in circulation and which could bring some profit for the region, but they are now in shrubs and trees. There are enough problems. We do not discover anything new for ourselves in them. These problems are imposed on the entire country. It's just that in our region we have to solve them on a planned basis and bring them to the level, let's say “not a problem”.

E. Kiryanova: It takes time and helpers to learn about the specifics of the region. You have appointed Vladimir Gruzdev as your advisor. Was this your initiative? And how can he help you?

A. Dyumin: Appointed him - it's loud. I invited him to become my advisor. To which he agreed, and I am grateful to him for that. Gruzdev and I have quite business, partnership and friendly relations. We're buddies. I do not hide it, he does not hide it either. He served as governor for 4.5 years. He delved into certain problems, into all the problems of the Tula region. He knows the specifics, the nuances. He knows the things that didn't work out for him. It has a lot of positive aspects and you know it very well, this is noted by residents, and by the ratings and indicators of the region in the Central Federal District and in Russia as a whole. There is a lot to learn. There are things that have slipped. I would not want to step on a rake a second time. There are certain things on which I ask him for advice, and together we decide which way we should move on on those problematic issues that he did not succeed in. As for the adviser, he is literate and competent in order to take part in the development of the Program for the socio-economic development of the region until 2021. There is a block of questions that he covers. He is a member of the expert working groups where he works. I think this is a normal partnership. There is such a thing as the transfer of cases. There was a transfer of affairs, and a kind of union of the acting governor and his adviser was formed. I think this is normal and effective.

E. Kiryanova: How do you communicate with him? By phone or in person?

A. Dyumin: Mostly by phone, but there are also personal meetings.

A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, my colleagues and I noted that during your working trips to enterprises and cities of the region, you quite openly, in a simple way, communicate with employees of enterprises, workers, residents. Without such barriers and barriers. And as a proof of words, I propose to watch our next story about your meetings with people.

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A. Dyumin: The questions of your economy are not of interest to the guys who travel this road every day. I wonder when the road will be.

O. Fedosov (head of the administration of the Moscow O. Shchekinsky District): Okay, we'll try to do it this year.

A. Dyumin: Over the summer?

O. Fedosov: By September.

A. Dyumin: We will come and check.

Announcer: In the Shchekino district, residents complain to Alexei Dyumin about off-road conditions. The interim Governor immediately sets the task for the local authorities to promptly carry out repair work. Dates have been appointed, instructions have been given to specific persons, and now they are personally responsible for their implementation. Alexey Dyumin gets acquainted with the work of the region's enterprises not in his offices, but in the shops. Tulachermet is the largest ironmaking plant in Russia. The demand for the products of this metallurgical enterprise is constantly growing. Last year, production volumes increased by almost 100%. The pupils of the Novomoskovsk sports school have dreamed of a modern training hall for a long time ... and now a new sports and recreation complex called "Dream" opens its doors. The interim Governor of the region comes to the first training session. Athletes share their impressions with him, and ask a question as a hockey player to a hockey player about their favorite sport.

A. Dyumin: I want to tell you a secret, just don't tell it to anyone: as a child I wanted to become a professional hockey player, but I didn't succeed. I just followed in the military footsteps. But I want to tell you that hockey is a very correct sport. This is a very courageous and spectacular sport, so I approve of your choice.

Announcer: Virtual reality glasses are perhaps the only way to get a little distracted from solving important tasks and go in for sports in the mountains, in the park or on the ocean. Tula entrepreneurs are developing and implementing new technologies. Acquaintance with Tula brands from the inside: in the shops of the confectionery factory, where candies, marshmallows, marmalade, Tula gingerbread are produced, Alexey Dyumin tries to make himself. Master class from pastry chefs, a few minutes of work and you're done. The first experience was successful. First he was driving an all-terrain vehicle, then on foot. Tent camp 4 kilometers from the village of Bashkino, Belevsky district. The search engines conducted reconnaissance with a metal detector. With the members of the Watch of Memory, Alexey Dyumin goes to the excavation site. Together with the remains of the soldier, they raise cartridges for the Mosin rifle, a plaque from a belt and a helmet. Before the main holiday, Victory Day, such memorable finds are especially valuable.

E. Kiryanova: Alexey Gennadievich, you have repeatedly said that you have experience in working with search engines. How did it all begin?

A. Dyumin: You know, in fact, this is not an experience. In early childhood, as boys in the yard, we traveled secretly from our parents on electric trains, took probes, took small paddles. We tried to find relics that are associated with those times of that distant war. It was more of an adventure like this. But we really tried, dug something. There were no metal detectors at that time. There was something more adventurous here. Who would have thought that such adventures could be superimposed on such serious events that I have recently become a participant in.

E. Kiryanova: We know that the profession is to defend the Motherland, until recently it was your job, while we know very little about you. The main activity is understandable - it is the security of the country. Still, the Star of the Hero of Russia ... For what?

A. Dyumin: Profession - to defend the Motherland, has not remained in the past. She has remained to this day. My homeland is now the Tula region. I will continue to defend my homeland, but now in the region, in the Tula region. This profession has remained - to defend their homeland. I received the Hero of Russia Star for completing special assignments and assignments of the Motherland, for the interests of defending the Motherland.

A. Gubarev: On May 5, you, together with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, attended the funeral meeting and saw off the body of the senior lieutenant of the special forces Alexander Prokhorenko. The story of this guy who died heroically in Syria is worthy, in my opinion, to be described in a textbook. And yet, what was your visit to the Chkalovsky airfield near Moscow connected with?

A. Dyumin: You know that at a certain stage of my life I was in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. I commanded such an elite, rather serious, very special forces unit - the Special Operations Forces. I am proud of that time period. These are quite highly qualified specialists, cool guys who are ready at any time to give themselves up for protection in the interests of their country, both within their homeland and abroad. They perform very serious tasks. And I know that now they are fulfilling their assigned tasks to protect the interests of the Motherland. This is a very serious division, where I left a piece of myself, a piece of my heart. I will say that I personally did not know this guy, but for a certain time he was my subordinate. I commanded this unit, where he served. This is really a real Hero, died heroically. He took not only the fire on himself, he also saved the lives of his comrades. He really deserves the posthumous Hero of Russia award. Eternal memory to him.

E. Kiryanova: You have already said that you were the commander of the Special Operations Division of Russia. How long? And do you keep in touch with your comrades in arms?

A. Dyumin: Yes, of course, all the time. Almost every day we call each other, I ask how they are doing, I ask how things are in the unit I commanded. I have a lot of friends there, I can say friends. This is a kind of fighting brotherhood, when if you get there, then you don't come back from there, you stay in this team, you stay forever.

E. Kiryanova: How long were you in command?

A. Dyumin: Two years.

A. Gubarev: The first commander ...

A. Dyumin: No, I'm not the first commander. This unit was created before me, there were other commanders. But it began to acquire its powerful hardening, it happened, this is how the maps and the situation of foreign policy and international were formed. It was in my arrival that the stage of serious development and acquisition of combat experience began.

A. Gubarev: You took part in risky operations. I am sure that this strengthens special qualities in a person. But what qualities in a person do you value?

A. Dyumin: I won't tell you anything new. This is decency, this is reliability. If you speak, you do not throw words to the wind. These are such masculine concepts of male friendship, when you trust, you can turn your back on a person and know that he will not betray you. I won't tell you anything new. These are ordinary human stories, according to the principle of which a man should exist as a defender of the family, defender of the Fatherland, a reliable shoulder and support.

E. Kiryanova: You are a candidate of sciences and have written a dissertation. What for?

A. Dyumin: Coming back to my life during my work at the Ministry of Defense, I had quite a lot of experience in preparing foreign visits of the head of state at the level of international formats. These are various summits: BRICS, SCO, economic congresses, various conferences such as the G8, G20 - large economic platforms where all the heads of state gathered. I was a member of advanced working groups with colleagues in economics and international relations, where we went through certain stages of preparatory meetings, conferences. I have collected a large amount of material, which I counted: why not use it in scientific activity. I entered the Civil Service Academy, and upon its successful completion I was asked to write a scientific work with my esteemed professor.

A. Gubarev: With your permission, let's continue our personal topic. Are you a family man? What does the spouse do and where does the son study?

A. Dyumin: Yes, I am a family one. I have a good family. I have a spouse. Her name is Olga. There is a son, Nikita, who is in the 5th grade. In family relations, everything is fine with me, we are happy, we have been living together for 14 years. I am fine. My wife works in one of the commercial banks.

A. Gubarev: Are you planning to bring your family to Tula?

A. Dyumin: I am in Tula 99 percent of the time. I am completely immersed in my work. My son goes to math school. He prepared for admission to this school for about a whole year: various Olympiads and additional classes. I would not want to break the fate of a child because of my own fate. We often see our family enough. They come here whenever possible. I see my wife more often. Tula and Moscow are a short distance, so everything is fine with this.

E. Kiryanova: Alexey Gennadievich, we know that you play hockey. Do you do other sports in general? And how do you keep fit with such a schedule?

A. Dyumin: Now I can no longer say that I play hockey because of the tight schedule. If it happens once a week, I'm happy. Besides hockey, I’m pretty good, as I think, skiing. This also takes time and a certain season. I enjoyed visiting the gym. The schedule is really very tight at the moment. I think I will work in and will often find time to devote time to sports.

A. Gubarev: Alexey Gennadievich, we see you at every game of Arsenal Tula. Has football also become a sporting love?

A. Dyumin: I have the same attitude to football, as to hockey, as to other sports. This is a rather spectacular and popular sport. As for Arsenal, this is a brand, a highlight of the city of Tula and the Tula region. The team is in a difficult financial position. We will support her. Now we all hope and pray that it will reach the highest level - this is the Premier League. We will not abandon the team.

A. Gubarev: You said that you spend 99 percent of your time in Tula. Does it mean that Tula has become your second home, and are you going to register here?

A. Dyumin: Tula has become much larger than my home, it has become my everything. As for registration, I think how you devote yourself to work, how you position yourself, what your results and these results people see - this is more important than registration. If the answer to your question is posed - yes, I do.

A. Gubarev: We talked with the Acting Governor of the Tula Region Alexei Dyumin. Alexey Gennadievich, thank you for the interesting and intense dialogue, but there are still many questions and topics for conversation. When will we meet again on TV?

A. Dyumin: Thank you for your interesting questions. Let's think together. Maybe in a month, when we return from the St. Petersburg Economic Forum. I want to wish good luck to all residents of the Tula region. Will be working!

E. Kiryanova: Until next time!

A. Dyumin: Until next time!

Alexei Dyumin, recently appointed acting governor of the Tula region, who is called a possible successor of Vladimir Putin, gave an interview to the Kommersant newspaper, in which he spoke about his acquaintance with Putin and relations with him, as well as about his involvement in the escape of Viktor Yanukovych from Ukraine.

According to media reports, Alexey Dyumin was Putin's personal aide-de-camp, helped annex Crimea to Russia and played hockey with the Rothenbergs. His younger brother is a contractor for the development of the Zaryadye Park near the Kremlin and the head of the Olympic Stadium. The day before, The New Times magazine published an investigation of his family. Now Dyumin gave his first interview after the exciting media appointment.

About appointment

In an interview with Andrey Kolesnikov, the new acting The Governor of the Tula Region says that he learned about his appointment from Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev:

“I was summoned. Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev summoned me. He looked at me very carefully ... And Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev says that there is such an opinion that the president will now meet with you, will offer a new job. This is his decision, it has not yet been finalized, but you must understand, internally you must be prepared that there is such an opinion that you will be appointed acting governor of the Tula region. After that I went to the president in Ogaryovo ... ".

When he came to the president, the ex-governor of the region Vladimir Gruzdev was already there. Putin said that a decision was made on the appointment - "we talked in detail, then there was a meeting under the cameras."

About hockey

Dyumin played in the Night Hockey League, established by President Putin, together with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, Moscow Region Governor Andrei Vorobyov, former Interior Minister Rashid Nurgaliev, other former and current officials in law enforcement agencies and government bodies, as well as entrepreneurs Igor Roten and Arkadiy and Gennady Timchenko.

He played as a goalkeeper, often playing in a team against Vladimir Putin. In an interview, he stated that he has been playing hockey since childhood.

“In Voronezh, from the fourth grade, I began to play hockey. I saw the ice box open. Adult guys were playing there. I came to sign up, and when the coach asked me if I could skate, I said: "No". I say: "Can I at least be a goalkeeper ..." I had a common mistake: that goalkeepers don't have to skate ... And just in that age group there were no goalkeepers, because no one wanted to be goalkeepers ... so that they would throw pucks at them ... Moreover, the ammunition that was at that time was completely different from what it is now, there were big bruises, bruises, fractures ... And stars in front of my eyes, and light bulbs lit up, and flies flew ... But this is not the main thing. The goalkeeper is a whole philosophy, because if you are not psychologically attuned to the game, then you can lose already before the start of the game ... After the tenth grade I was taken to a stronger team and offered a goalkeeper career ... There was such a team "Buran", Voronezh ", - he says.

From becoming a professional hockey player, his father dissuaded. Then Dyumin went up the military career ladder.

On serving Putin

“When I got to the military unit, the first thing I discovered was that hot water was flowing from the tap and they couldn't shut it off. Then my senior mentor came, took out a bottle of alcohol, diluted it with hot water, and a chemical reaction started. They took one egg, cut it into four with a fishing line ... "Well, drink!" I drank. And I hear: "Well, it is clear that you will serve!" And then, when this began to continue systematically, my hair stood on end ... And when one acquaintance from a personnel officer suggested moving to the main security department, to the presidential communications department, I immediately agreed. They told me: “You will be in charge of providing communications for top officials on their trips throughout the country and abroad ...” I started working with Viktor Stepanovich Chernomyrdin, and a couple of times I had the opportunity to be on a business trip with Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin… ”, says Dyumin.

How did Dyumin get into the presidential security service?

“I went to one of the divisional leaders and asked. I say: "Take me, I want to see you!" And I ended up in the bodyguard department, ”he says.

But there was “aerobatics” when, in 1999, upon returning from a business trip from the regions where he was providing for the visit of then Prime Minister Stepashin, he received a call in the evening and was told that tomorrow he would go to Vladimir Putin's personal guard.

“And I ended up on a post like ... let's say, an infantryman of Putin ...,” says Dyumin. - I went out on the first day when he took up the duties of the chairman of the government. It was August 9, 1999. "

He spoke about his personal acquaintance with Putin.

Were you immediately introduced to Vladimir Putin?

Zolotov Viktor Vasilyevich (then the head of the presidential security service - approx. Medialeaks) is a man who did a lot in my life, taught me wisdom, and got me from him, and there were a couple of moments when he almost kicked me out ... sometimes he chopped with a sword ... And so he talked to us and said that it would not be easy, that it would be difficult ... And he said something else. I immediately realized that this is a very strong, spirited commander, who can be followed to the end. And then there was a presentation to Vladimir Vladimirovich. He said, "Are you ready?" We told him: "Yes, we are ready, we will work." And away we go! ..

And where did you go?

They say about me that I was an adjutant, and I have never been an adjutant. Naturally, I walked up a certain ladder and was never an adjutant on it. An adjutant is such a caste of selected people ... I was part of a group of officers who ensured security in Russia and abroad, everywhere ... Well, I was like all of us ... We were taken away, we did what we had to do, we did the tasks that were set before us. Well, the last thing I have achieved in this direction is that I was the deputy head of the security department for both the chairman of the government, and the president, and then again the chairman of the government ...

There is no such!

At sea you took some samples from the whales ... shot them ...

A! Well, there was a lot of excitement, I just insured him ... Yes, of course. I should have insured ...

But it's still a special closeness, a special relationship ...

This is not a special relationship. These are security measures. We could all be in the water ... And so that Vladimir Vladimirovich did not end up in the water, in the raging ocean ... And I did not want to be, because if something happened we would all have to ...

Recall that after the presidential elections in 2008, which Dmitry Medvedev won, the government was headed by Vladimir Putin, and Dyumin became, as they say in the press, his personal adjutant. The presidential security service at that time actually guarded the prime minister.

Participation in the annexation of Crimea

Since 2014, he became the deputy chief of the GRU and at the same time the commander of the Russian Special Operations Forces.

The documentary film “Crimea. The Way to Homeland ”, shown on the VGTRK channels, says that the Special Operations Forces actually carried out force support for the annexation of Crimea to Russia in 2014, and Alexey Dyumin personally developed and carried out the operation to evacuate former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych to Russia.

When it came to the interview about Crimea, Dyumin said that "he has nothing to say especially."

Is there really nothing?

Then tell me finally: did you save Yanukovych?

I don’t understand where all this comes from. Where do such legends come from? Who creates these myths? After the beginning of the well-known events in Ukraine, I have never seen this gentleman. And what you are asking me about, I cannot even comment, because it is not at all true. In general, I will not tell you anything about the activities of the unit in which I served. Because I can not.

And he received the Hero of Russia, then, not only for the Crimea? Or not for Crimea at all?

No comment. For completing special assignments as part of a unit. Not a special assignment, but a special assignment, Andrey. And there I left a part of my heart. It is with those guys who serve there now. Then, by the decision of the Deputy Minister of Defense, I was appointed from this position to the Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces, Chief of the General Staff ...

On Putin's successor

At the very end of the interview, the journalist asks a question that clearly hints at talk that Dyumin is a possible successor to Vladimir Putin as president. Recall that the presidential elections will be held in 2018.

Program (socio-economic development of the Tula region - approx. Medialeaks) for five years? Are you sure you will stay in this position for five years? You know what kind of talk went on.

Now I will work if residents and voters of the Tula region give me such an opportunity. If they believe me, I intend to implement this five-year program.

You evade the answer ...

No matter what I say about this, all this will be logs into fire, which in fact does not exist ...

Will you break through?

And there are no options.

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"And it never happened that when he set tasks for me, and I would say" no "

Alexey Dyumin spoke in an interview about his work in the protection of Putin and his appointment

Acting Governor of the Tula Region, the main newsmaker of the last week, Alexei Dyumin gave a long interview to the Kommersant newspaper, in which he spoke about his biography and his acquaintance with President Vladimir Putin.

Dyumin said that he was born in Kursk. His father is a military doctor, his mother worked as a teacher. As a child, Dyumin also lived in Voronezh, where his father was transferred. There he started playing hockey. After becoming a military man, Dyumin served for some time in the Moscow military district, then "a personnel officer, one acquaintance" suggested moving to the main security department, to the presidential communications department. “I started working with Viktor Stepanovich Chernomyrdin, and a couple of times I had the opportunity to be on a business trip with Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin,” says Dyumin.

Then Dyumin moved to the personal protection department. “I approached one of the divisional leaders and asked. I say: "Take me, I want to see you!" And I ended up in the personal protection department, ”he says.

Dyumin, according to him, got into Putin's personal bodyguard in 1999. He went to work on August 9, the day Putin took over as prime minister. “I don’t want to talk now, for example, about one boss who told me that another prime minister has come, that this is a passing option, that no one knows him, no one has heard ... But your task, says that we everyone is ashamed: we have to work it out. He came for two or three months, then there will be another chairman of the government, but you have to work ... ”- says Dyumin.

In the protection, Dyumin was a member of the team headed by Viktor Zolotov, who now commands the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation. There were many aspects of my work related to threats to Putin. “For example, there was a visit to the village of Znamenskoye, after being freed from Chechen fighters. And the meeting with the elders was also a difficult meeting, the village was liberated, but certain things remained that were associated with threats ... And after meeting with the elders, we went to the helicopter, and this is the main helicopter on which we flew. I tried to tell Vladimir Vladimirovich that this is our helicopter, he did not listen to me, and went across the field, to the distant helicopter, not to his, well, it turned out that he was in the escort helicopter. This helicopter took off safely, we got into the main one, the engine began to pick up speed, the helicopter took off two meters from the ground, some kind of flame broke out under the casing, under the engine, smoke started to flow, and the helicopter landed very hard ... all pale, sweaty, said: "Guys, we were born in a shirt." And then I wondered what it was, ”said Dyumin.

Then Dyumin tells what his job was like when Putin became prime minister after his first presidential term. “Every morning starts with a report to the President on the operational reports. Not only do special services report to him, but you must also have information on regions, on emergencies. Sometimes I had to hand over an order to the minister, set a task for the head of the region. […] There was once such a very interesting moment that characterizes it. It was the end of the term of the prime minister, a trip, and there was a way out to the people, and it seemed to me that well, one of, let's say, citizens behaved incorrectly towards Vladimir Vladimirovich, took him by the sleeve, began to pull him back, and I hit him on hand. Well, I just put it ... It was during the day. In the evening, Vladimir Vladimirovich summoned me to his office, at about ten o'clock, and said: "If I see this again, you will never work with me again." He says: "I saw this situation, you didn't have to do this. This is a simple person. We will leave, you are all smartly dressed, together with the president ... and he will have a sediment for the rest of his life in relation not to you, but to to me..."".

In an interview, Dyumin denied information that appeared in the media that he took part in the operation to evacuate ex-President Viktor Yanukovych from Ukraine. “I don’t understand where all this comes from. Where do such legends come from? Who creates these myths? After the beginning of the well-known events in Ukraine, I have never seen this gentleman at all. " - he declared.

He also spoke about his appointment to the post of Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, which preceded his appointment to the Tula region. “The Minister of Defense summoned me and said that it was his decision and that he coordinated his decision with the Supreme Commander. And that he offers me to take the post of Deputy Minister of Defense. I tried not to refuse, I tried to discuss. How the decision was made, etc. To which I was told in such a harsh form that the decision had been made and the verdict was not subject to appeal. But we must pay tribute to Sergei Kuzhugetovich. He saw my condition, saw my eyes and asked that they bring me 50 grams of cognac from the reception room ... Well, not 50, but even 100. This is despite the fact that the ministry has a dry law ”.

As for the appointment to the Tula region, Dyumin said that he could not refuse. “When I was offered this position, I was a military man, and the supreme commander-in-chief set me this task. And it never happened that when he set tasks for me to say "no". Maybe inside I had some desire to say something, but I said "is." After all, life has changed dramatically more than once. I will work so that it works out, ”he said.

He noted that he is not planning personnel changes in the Tula government: “There will be no revolutionary movements, no Moscow landings, this is unambiguous. And I think that the team that is working there now is very good. "

As previously reported, on February 2, Russian President Vladimir Putin accepted the resignation of Vladimir Gruzdev from the post of governor of the Tula region. As reported in the decree, Gruzdev left the post of his own free will. During a meeting with Gruzdev, Putin promised the ex-governor to find him a job "closer to Moscow."

By the same decree, Aleksey Dyumin was appointed acting governor of the Tula region before the elections.

ALEXANDER DYUMIN: "A heart attack turned my perception of life ..."

Artist-performer Alexander Dyumin, whom journalists and fans call the brightest representative of the "hard chanson", turns 45 on October 9. On the eve of the anniversary, the musician gave an exclusive interview to the Radio Chanson website.

Sasha, all fans of the genre know that you suffered a heart attack in winter and therefore my first question is about your health. How are you feeling? Can you say that today all the problems are over.

Better, much better, but it's still too early to talk about full rehabilitation. Today I put on a sweater, jerked my hand sharply and immediately, as the needle entered my heart. Stabbed, stabbed ... What do you want, massive heart attack, 70% of the heart was affected. So it's too early to talk about a full recovery. But I hope that with God's help the forces will return.

How did your heart attack affect your attitude towards life?

A heart attack turned my perception of life upside down. When you find yourself in intensive care at 44, you wonder if you lived right. It's no secret what kind of life I led. The attitude to life, to one's own health was, in all honesty, disregard. This was reflected in creativity. I was somewhat lazy, wrote songs only when the mood came. Unlike, say, Zheka, a hard worker, a person who really works. I went to the studio only because of my mood. I woke up, a star smiled at me, and I went, but to force myself, this never happened. After a heart attack, I realized that I was returned from the other world. I look into the eyes of my daughter, I look into the eyes of my wife, mother, friends. These people sincerely worried about me, helped. When this happened, help came from all over Russia. The hospital received 40 people a day. Doctors, guards, nurses did not know where to go from the visitors (laughs). For me this served as a great support and understanding that since God left me on this earth, then not everything has been sung, not everything has been done. And my attitude towards myself, towards my own creativity has changed.

I know that the doctors forbade you to speak for at least six months. Do you follow their instructions and when do you plan to return to the stage?

No, I can't comply. At the end of August, they called me from my native Gorlovka and invited me to speak at the Miner's Day. How could I refuse when, as a boy, every day I saw my father, black from coal dust, returning from the mine. He left all his health underground, left the mine disabled, and his mother saw him off every day as if to the front. This is the hardest work. How many accidents occur in mines ... I went and sang three songs. I saw my mother. True, my heart beat incredibly after these three songs, I stood behind the scenes and thought what would happen to me at a solo concert when I would have to sing for at least an hour and a half in a row. But at the end of October I have already scheduled my first performances. Tyumen, Tobolsk, Chelyabinsk, Magnitogorsk ... Well, God willing, I can handle it.

I see you haven't been able to quit smoking yet ...

This is my problem (sighs). I have reduced the number of cigarettes significantly, but I still cannot quit completely, although I will definitely do it, my motivation for this is significant.

Does the internet keep boiling when Dyumin releases a new album?

In quantitative terms, 12-15 new compositions have already been recorded, but, I repeat, after a heart attack I rethought a lot and I look at some songs in a different way and am in no hurry to release them. But the work is going on. Just the other day I was in the studio, recording a new piece that Zheka and Misha Grubov wrote and dedicated to me. In my opinion, the song was a success.

You are a great friend with Zheka. But Zheka in recent years has departed from his image and already sings like Yevgeny Grigoriev from big stage. You never didn't want to go down this path?

I wanted and did not want to at the same time. I remember how at the very beginning of the journey, when the release of the album "Convoy" was just being prepared, we gathered in Yuri Sevostyanov's studio and he, together with his companions, decided what my project would be called. Various options have been proposed, for example, Alexander Rams. There was a long discussion. I sat and listened to their conversations, and then I said: “Why is this all? The time is such that now there is no need to hide behind these songs, there is no need to run, and they will hardly send me under Susuman. Therefore, I see no point in a pseudonym. I am me. Alexander Dyumin. And I don't consider it necessary to take the stage name instead of my name. " In general, I am a man of contradictions. When they tell me - do so, I always strive to go against it and, frankly, I would hardly be able to play by the rules of show business. It's not mine ... And Zheka is my friend and I support him in any decision. He decided to change his image, try himself in a more lyrical genre. This is his right and I will always support him.

I can't help but ask about your collaboration with rapper Zhigan ...

We have known Romka for a long time. But the acquaintance was for the time being one-sided. It so happened that I performed in the colony where he was at that time. Of course, hundreds of people were present there, and I could not get to know him personally, but he remembered my songs and not so long ago we met, he offered to make a joint project. Frankly, I doubted for a long time. Still, rap and chanson are somewhat different things, but then I thought that it is in rap that those motives, sharp, social, for which our genre was once famous, are often heard. Roma feels the word and does not touch in his work those topics that I do not accept. On the contrary, he himself, having seen a lot, tries to teach his audience the correct understanding of many important things in life. In general, I agreed and now slowly, thoughtfully, but work is underway on a duet composition dedicated to friends.

Sasha, you have quite a lot of duet compositions with your chansonnier friends Zheka, Igor German, Alexander Cherkasov, and why no joint work with the fair sex?

There was a duet with Tanya Tishinskaya. And shortly before my illness, we planned to record a song together with my old friend, a wonderful artist Katya Golitsyna. She not only sings beautifully, but also writes very talentedly, which is a rarity in the genre, and so we planned to perform a duet song that Katya had composed. But I think that soon we will bring our plans to life.

Once you said that there are several, let's say, hobbies in your life. These are sports cars, equestrian sports and collecting backgammon. What's left and what's gone?

Frankly, after a heart attack, there is no talk of driving at a speed of 200 km per hour in a car. I love horses, but I can't ride as often as before. I even gave the stallion, which my fans gave me a few years ago, to the stables in Bitsa Park. But the backgammon collection is only growing. Friends come, Zheka, Igor German, Sanya Cherkasov, we brew seagulls and play, it happens, for hours.

You used to collect your collection of pirated publications. Preservedis this a hobby?

Yes, I continue to collect a collection of pirated discs, just recently they brought again a complete selection of MP3s with a photograph ... Where do they take them only (laughs). But I don't mind. I visit the regions a lot and I know, I really know how people live there, and therefore I don't mind at all if they had the opportunity to buy my pirated discs for some little money. Yes, at the same time I do not earn anything, but this money will not make me happier for sure.

Your daughter is growing. How old is she and what does she do?

Maria is quite an adult, on September 5 she turned 19 years old. She finished school excellently, was very active, led all creative events. Draws well. Now she is in her second year of university, where she entered herself, without any calls. I am pleased that she grew up not spoiled, understanding many things correctly at her young age.

What did you give your daughter for her birthday, if not a secret?

Not a secret. I gave an icon consecrated in the Kiev Pechersk Lavra and some money so that she and her friends would go bowling and a cafe. My daughter is my joy. We get along well with her and understand each other.

Now that you have a little more free time, what do you spend it on?

Watching the news, I am very worried about the situation in Syria. I think our president is right. Is it human, a neighbor swears with his wife, and someone else intervenes in the conflict. The Arab world is a delicate thing and it is impossible to cut from the shoulder here. I read, of course. Recently I finished rereading "Katorga" by Valentin Pikul. When I need to rest my soul, turn off my head, I watch old films. Both ours and foreign ones. I love historical pictures very much.

Have you ever wanted to act in a movie yourself?

You looked into the water. Just the other day, there was a call from Kiev, offering a role in the series "Brother for Brother".

Did you agree? Whom will you play?

Yes, I gave the go-ahead. This is a new creative experience and it is interesting to me. I will play a crime boss, but I set a condition for the director that my hero should not be killed in the story. In this regard, I am a superstitious person.

Since you will be on the screen, it is logical that your song will sound there as a soundtrack ...

This was also discussed. One of my new compositions will probably sound in the film.

(c) Maxim Kravchinsky specially for Radio Chanson

Kommersant's special correspondent, ANDREY KOLESNIKOV, asked and. about. Governor of the Tula Region ALEXEY DYUMIN on how he came to hockey, how he saved a saboteur bear from certain death, whether he saved Viktor Yanukovych in Crimea, and also how he survived the appointment as Deputy Minister of Defense, and then as the head of the Tula Region.

We met with and. about. Governor of the Tula region Alexei Dyumin in Moscow, on his legal weekend. On Sunday evening, he was going to Tula for good. This is a man to whom the attention of a huge number of political scientists, experts, military people and civilians is now riveted. A very extraordinary biography. It threw it very strongly in different directions, but rather threw it up. A very closed person. So I really wanted to open it, especially since I understood: I have a chance. And - here he is, all Alexey Dyumin.

- Alexey, let's start with ...

- Only I suggest not to pretend that we see each other for the first time and that we are "you". Because we have known each other well for 15 years, or even more.

- Of course. It's hard to imagine what has befallen you over the past few days. You can, as they say, only survive. And it seems that interest in you as governor will not dry up now. You were in Putin's personal protection, you are in the special forces, you are the deputy minister of defense, you are the governor of the Tula region ... Or rather, and. about. ... And this, apparently, is not the limit. But almost nothing is known about you. So come on, tell, as they say, from the beginning ... Where was you born and, in fact, how ...

- Andrei, well, before starting, I would like to say that it is absolutely correct: it was a surprise. But the fact that it fell or collapsed is not entirely true. I was appointed by the commander-in-chief, and I said yes.

- Appointed. It was then that it collapsed ...

- Yes, unexpectedly. But it didn't collapse.

- Well, how did it not collapse? How did you know about it? Well, woke up in the morning. Some people say that they woke up famous. But this is not the case, about you, in principle, without details, of course, and so they knew. You're the goalkeeper in the Night Hockey League ... So what did you find out about yourself this morning? How it was?

- I was called. Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev summoned me. He looked at me very carefully ... And Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev says that there is such an opinion that the president will now meet with you, will offer a new job. This is his decision, it has not yet been finalized, but you must understand, internally you must be prepared that there is such an opinion that you will be appointed acting governor of the Tula region. After that I went to the president in Ogaryovo ...

- Straight from the White House?

- No, not from Bely, from Gorki. There was already Vladimir Sergeevich Gruzdev (ex-governor of the Tula region - A. K.). We went to the president and he indicated. He said that a decision had been made to appoint me as acting. We talked in detail, then there was a meeting under the cameras.

- This is a turning point in life. Have you even begun to doubt? Or as a military man ...

- Reflections were later. Well, I ... you correctly said that my whole life is connected with the army, and my first education was a military school, it was serving the fatherland, the armed forces, special services, and then the armed forces again. I was assigned tasks, I performed them.

- Oh, I know that. This is how we wrote one book at one time, with Natalya Gevorkyan and Natalya Timakova, and this is exactly how our communication with Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin began in due time.

- The book was called First Person.

- That's for sure. And he said: "Well, I was born, studied, got married, so I worked in the KGB, then they offered to work there and there, that's all, but in principle there is nothing more to tell." That's exactly where the conversation began. But then all the same the details became clear, which were enough for the whole book. Come on all the same and you are more detailed. Where he was born?

- Yes I remember. In the long evenings I witnessed your work, your group of journalists who locked themselves in for tea, drank more than one cup of tea with biscuits and biscuits, and these long conversations were winter evenings in Volynskoe, and on trips to St. Petersburg or somewhere else .. But please don't compare us.

- And yet: where was he born?

- My father is a military doctor, he was born in a Kursk village. I lived in Kursk for only a few months and then I lived in military garrisons.

- And mom?

- My mom is also from Kursk. They got married there. My mother was a teacher all my life. She taught in elementary grades ... And when they lived in Bobrov, she was even a teacher in a colony for minors. And she fell under a riot even there ... She is now a pensioner, and her father finished his service in the armed forces a year ago. And after Kursk I served in Kaluga, then in Voronezh ... I finished school there.

- That is, all the time circled around the Tula region ...

- Yes, it turns out that way ... In Voronezh, my father worked in a military hospital, and across the street was a military radio-electronic school. And I had a choice. I was playing hockey then ...

- And so it’s not all by chance: the Night Hockey League ... I didn’t just succumb to someone else’s hobby ...

- In Voronezh, from the fourth grade, I began to play hockey. I saw the ice box open. Adult guys were playing there. I came to sign up, and when the coach asked me if I can skate, I said: "No." I say: "Can I at least be a goalkeeper ..." I had a common mistake: that goalkeepers don't have to skate ... And there were no goalkeepers in that age group, because no one wanted to be goalkeepers ... so that washers were thrown at them ... And even more so the ammunition that was at that time was completely different from what it is now, there were big bruises, bruises, fractures ... And the stars in front of my eyes, and the bulbs lit up, and the flies flew ... But this is not the main thing. The goalkeeper is a whole philosophy, because if you are not psychologically attuned to the game, then you can lose before the start of the game ... After the tenth grade I was taken to a stronger team and offered a goalkeeper career ... There was such a team "Buran", Voronezh.

- And who dissuaded?

- My father said to me: "It is not known whether you will become an athlete, but the fact that you will be a normal military man, and you will be dressed and shod, and in action, that is for sure." And I entered the military school.

- Where did you live?

- Were rented apartments. I even remember the period of time when in Kaluga we lived in the basement of a military hospital. A large storage of medicines, medical equipment ... And as in the movie "Officers", the corner was fenced off with a tarp, where there were beds, a field kitchen, and we lived there ...

- You studied at a military school when this profession was not very popular. Mid 90s ...

- I studied and finished it safely. By that time my father had been transferred to Moscow, and I was assigned to the Moscow military district. It was, say, such a small military unit, which was engaged in countering the technical means of reconnaissance of the enemy.

- It's already interesting.

- Well no. When I got to the military unit, the first thing I discovered was that hot water was flowing from the tap and they couldn't shut it off. Then my senior mentor came, took out a bottle of alcohol, diluted it with hot water, and a chemical reaction started. They took one egg, cut it into four with a fishing line ... "Well, drink!" I drank. And I heard: "Well, it is clear that you will serve!" And then, when this began to continue systematically, my hair stood on end ... And when a friend of mine suggested moving to the main security department, to the presidential communications department, I immediately agreed. I was told: "You will be in charge of providing communications for top officials on their trips throughout the country and abroad ..." I started working with Viktor Stepanovich Chernomyrdin, and a couple of times I had the opportunity to be on a business trip with Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin ...

- Hard work?

- Highly! Voluminous large boxes of closed and open communications, which the officers themselves unloaded and loaded. And on the plane, and from the plane, on the train, on the ship ... 1996, such a very intense election campaign, when we did not even have time to run home, were on business trips for months, changing point ... one city to another city ... With these boxes, with boxes and with big satellite dishes ...

- At least once it was probably unrealistic for you to talk to Boris Nikolayevich then?

- What are you! The president's security service were gods for us! .. I went up to one of the divisional leaders and asked. I say: "Take me, I want to see you!" And he ended up in the personal protection department.

- And it was so easy to get into this service? Walk up to a person and say: "Take me, I'll be useful to you"?

- This is a normal story. I think that often it was ... They naturally looked at who I was ...

- And you are a regular soldier ... And father too ... And another life began, apparently ... And you learned other things on the go ...

- Well, of course, the emphasis was on psychological preparation, on the ability to master hand-to-hand combat techniques, the ability to wield weapons, both individual and group combat, pistols, various machine guns ... Nothing unusual: shooting on the go, on the run, from a car, in as part of the group ...

- From the train ... the plane ...

- Not from the plane, but from the helicopter - maybe ... And in principle, I was satisfied that I got into this unit and devoted quite a lot of time to this particular service. And of course, the most aerobatics was when in 1999 I returned from a business trip from the region of Russia, where we provided for the visit of Stepashin, the prime minister, and they called me in the evening and said that tomorrow I would go to Vladimir Vladimirovich's personal security. And I ended up in such a post ... for example, an infantryman of Putin ...

- Has Vladimir Putin been the Prime Minister yet?

- I went out on the first day when he took up the duties of the chairman of the government. It was August 9, 1999.

- I probably didn't understand how long you would stay here.

- I don’t want to talk now, for example, about one boss who told me that another prime minister had come, that this was a passing option, that no one knew him, no one heard ... But your task, says that we everyone is ashamed: we have to work it out. He came for two or three months, then there will be another prime minister, but he has to work ...

- Were you immediately introduced to Vladimir Putin?

- Zolotov Viktor Vasilyevich is a man who did a lot in my life, taught me wits and wits, and I got it from him, and there were a couple of moments when he almost kicked me out ... I sometimes chopped with a sword ... And now he talked to us and said that it would not be easy, that it would be difficult ... And he said something else. I immediately realized that this is a very strong, spirited commander, who can be followed to the end. And then there was a presentation to Vladimir Vladimirovich. He said, "Are you ready?" We told him: "Yes, we are ready, we will work." And away we go! ..

- And where did you go?

- They say about me that I was an adjutant, and I have never been an adjutant. Naturally, I walked a certain ladder and never was an adjutant on it. An adjutant is such a caste of selected people ... I was part of a group of officers who ensured security in Russia and abroad, everywhere ... Well, I was like all of us ... We were taken away, we did what we had to do, we performed the tasks that were assigned to us. Well, the last thing I achieved in this direction was that I was the deputy head of the security department for both the chairman of the government and the president, and then again the chairman of the government ...

- There is no such!

- At sea, you took some samples from the whales ... shot them ...

- A! Well, there was a lot of excitement, I just insured him ... Yes, of course. It was necessary to insure ...

- But it's still a special closeness, a special relationship ...

- It's not a special relationship. These are security measures. We could all be in the water ... And so that Vladimir Vladimirovich did not end up in the water, in the raging ocean, first of all ... And I did not want to be, because if something happened we would all have to ...

But this was not just the work. One might get the impression that all these guys are very cool, that they come with the president, stand around him, stand and then leave. In fact, they are fully involved in the preparation of trips, visits, participate in meetings, including with foreigners, are involved in ensuring the safety of guests. What do you need to know for this? If an event is at an enterprise, you need to know what it is doing, what is being produced there, what the situation is ... That is, this work is mostly not connected with the fact that you have a pistol in a holster or somewhere else ... And during The protocol, the media, the foreign policy department and the senior security group worked on the preparation of foreign trips at narrow meetings ... That is, he was engaged in this ...

- When did Vladimir Putin pay attention to you? Didn't he convert?

- I was a member of the team headed by Viktor Vasilyevich Zolotov. And there was no special attitude towards me. It was the attitude to the team that Zolotov made. We worked quite effectively and for a fairly long time, and I want to say that we did not have any mistakes or any things that could be regretted or for which it would be ashamed, let's put it this way.

- But there were borderline moments?

- We have had enough of such things and moments that were associated with threats to the security of the head of state ... About some of these things, maybe, after a certain number of years it will be possible to tell, remember something ...

- I catch the word.

- They are still under the bar. Well, as for some cases ... For example, there was a visit to the village of Znamenskoye, after being freed from Chechen fighters. And the meeting with the elders was also a difficult meeting, the village was liberated, but certain things remained that were associated with threats ... And after meeting with the elders, we went to the helicopter, and this is the main helicopter on which we flew. I tried to tell Vladimir Vladimirovich that this is our helicopter, he did not listen to me, and went across the field, to the distant helicopter, not to his, well, it turned out that he was in the escort helicopter. This helicopter took off safely, we got into the main one, the engine began to pick up speed, the helicopter got two meters off the ground, some kind of flame broke out under the casing, under the engine, smoke started to land, and the helicopter landed very hard ...

- That is, fell.

- The pilot came out all pale, sweaty, said: "Guys, we were born in a shirt." And then I wondered what it was.

- And who was born in a shirt.

- Naturally, first of all, Vladimir Vladimirovich, who flew away safely in the second helicopter.

And another such story, for example. It was a very distant object, in the mountains, and at night I was on duty in the house, the president was already resting, and then they told me at the station: "A bear is at your entrance." At first I thought that someone was joking there, went to the door and saw: there was a bear in front of me, quite ... very large. And the doors were all glass around the perimeter. Naturally, I am armed, the president is upstairs ... So, the bear and I looked into each other's eyes, he stepped back a bit, I opened the door and unloaded the entire clip of the pistol at his feet. I felt sorry for the bear, but I understood that he could ...

- Well, not the whole clip ... I probably left a couple of cartridges ... One for myself ...

“I had spare cartridges and the machine gun was loaded. But the bear turned out to be very intelligent. He realized that we had saved his life, turned around and walked away slowly. In the morning, it means, I reported to the president, he said that he was good, that he did not start shooting at the bear.

- That is, I did not even wake up.

- It seems not. Well, this story is so, for detente, otherwise you and I are sitting here so serious ...

- If we return to the routine, then after some time, for example, I lost sight of you.

- You lost sight of me because I went into another plane. The leader summoned me and gave me an order to ensure the safety and life of the newly appointed Prime Minister Viktor Alekseevich Zubkov. A very intelligent and respected person, we still maintain a relationship with him. And I think that he is one of the very worthy and decent ...

- There, while working in the White House, and entered the Academy of Civil Service? I began to read books ...

- I do not agree with you, because everybody reads books in our service. And for the country, people who read books, and not just watch TV, will always be important.

- And it turns out that Vladimir Putin returned to you, right? When I was in the White House.

- It was not Vladimir Vladimirovich who returned to me, but I, let's say, did not leave him. I performed the task that was set. And its implementation could take a long time. But it turned out that this period was nine months.

- I think that you did not expect that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin would become the chairman of the government.

- For the first three months, the whole country, in my opinion, expected that Viktor Alekseevich Zubkov would be president. It was such an activity ... Again, the regions, foreign business trips ... It was an interesting time ...

- As a result, it turned out that Vladimir Putin came to the White House for everything ready.

- It so happened that in the White House I prepared a base for the leader ... When Putin came as Prime Minister, in fact, the crisis began, these frantic trips across the country began ... And it was a terrible time. I remember well ... Either some man-made accidents, or some kind of disaster ... I remember that I slept a little ...

“Even us journalists were touched by these endless night meetings in the White House. Sometimes they left at all in the morning.

- Vladimir Vladimirovich stayed often ...

- What was your job at that time? The status, as I understand it, has already changed.

- You must have complete control of the overall situation. Each morning begins with a report to the President on the operational briefs. Not only did the special services report to him, but you must also have information on the regions, on emergencies ... Sometimes you had to hand over the order to the minister, set the task to the head of the region ... And it was necessary to convey it so as not to offend, for example, the federal minister and convey to him the idea or essence of the issue ... But of course, I had to deal more with my direct responsibilities. There was once such a moment, very interesting, which characterizes it. It was the end of the term of the prime minister, a trip, and there was a way out to the people, and it seemed to me that well, one of, let's say, citizens, behaved incorrectly towards Vladimir Vladimirovich, took him by the sleeve, began to pull up, and I hit him on the hand. Well, I just put it ... It was during the day. In the evening, Vladimir Vladimirovich summoned me to his office, at about ten o'clock, and said: "If I see this again, you will never work with me again." He says: "I saw this situation, you didn't have to do this. This is a simple person. We will leave, you are all smartly dressed, together with the president ... and he will have a sediment for the rest of his life in relation not to you, but to to me..."

- In general, you could not even imagine that you would return to the Ministry of Defense?

- Of course, I was in the special service, but I never thought that I would return to the Ministry of Defense. I was summoned before the New Year ... And they said that I must continue my service in the Ministry of Defense. I said, "I have the option to refuse"? They say to me: "No, there is no way to refuse."

- What, and really was not?

- No, it was still my decision. This is an independent path. I was, of course, comfortable. I knew the job. I understood everything how to do it ... I knew the manager's requirements, his approaches ... understood the environment, understood ... well, I was in a comfortable enough environment. And I was interested in these trips, communication, new people, responsibility ... I was already the leader of a certain link, where I could make decisions on my own ...

But still he decided to leave, to start a new life. And I immediately got into what is called a batch of preparations and support for the Olympics. We covered the mountain cluster with our division. These were the highest points ... Where we were, it was very beautiful, very deserted and not very simple.

- And what is this unit? What is it called?

- This is an elite ... a fairly serious unit, one might say, this is an officer's unit ... And the zone of operation of special operations forces is the whole world. These are highly educated, very prepared, professional guys who know one, two foreign languages, who have very specific training, who can act both independently and as part of groups. And a very closed division. I am proud that I headed this unit, where there are real officers, where there is a feeling of sympathy, honor, dignity and the fulfillment of tasks at any cost, up to ... I don't know how to say.

- In Crimea after the Olympics, too, everything, as I understand it, was not very simple.

- There is nothing special to say about Crimea.

- Is there really nothing?

- There is nothing.

- Then tell me finally: did you save Yanukovych?

- I don’t understand where it all comes from. Where do such legends come from? Who creates these myths? After the beginning of the well-known events in Ukraine, I have never seen this gentleman. And what you are asking me about, I cannot even comment, because it is not at all true. In general, I will not tell you anything about the activities of the unit in which I served. Because I can not.

- And you said that the scope of this unit is the whole world. Apparently, have been on long business trips? Far from the borders of the homeland, thousands of kilometers from it, or something ...

- I was, and more than once, but I won't say anything else.

- And got the Hero of Russia, then, not only for the Crimea? Or not for Crimea at all?

- No comment. For completing special assignments as part of a unit. Not a special assignment, but a special assignment, Andrey. And there I left a part of my heart. It is with those guys who serve there now. Then, by the decision of the Deputy Minister of Defense, I was appointed from this position to the Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces, Chief of the General Staff ...

- Well, this is already very wide, you went! .. It's time to ask what kind of relationship you have with Sergei Shoigu.

- Relationships ... I have known Sergei Kuzhugetovich for a very long time, because he also headed the Ministry of Emergency Situations, of course, the President was always directly involved in these events, we communicated very closely with the Minister of Emergency Situations on official activities, and, of course , The Ministry of Emergency Situations assisted us in the allocation of transport ... Ensuring our events ... It was one of the most effective ministries ... both in terms of equipment and the speed of decision-making ... I want to say right away that I am going to Shoigu I have and I have great respect. He is a real person, glad that fate brought him together.

- How did you know that the deputy defense minister has been appointed?

- I was just summoned by the minister. Last December. The Minister of Defense summoned me and said that it was his decision and that he had coordinated his decision with the Supreme Commander. And that he offers me to take the post of Deputy Minister of Defense.

- Apparently, there were no special thoughts again, right?

- There were no special thoughts, but ...

- Could this time refuse?

- Well, I tried not to refuse, I tried to discuss. How the decision was made, etc. To which I was told in such a harsh form that the decision had been made and the verdict was not subject to appeal. But we must pay tribute to Sergei Kuzhugetovich. He saw my condition, saw my eyes and asked that they bring me 50 grams of cognac from the reception ... Well, not 50, but even 100. This is despite the fact that the ministry has a dry law ...

- Did the minister say what your duties will be?

- He immediately indicated my functionality to me. And for me it was the second surprise too. This is the construction department, the provision of housing for military personnel, this is military medicine, this is the department of property relations ... And I did not leave ... I am psychologically ... I have not yet calmed down in this position, understanding what I have to deal with ... so much construction projects alone ... and taking into account how the minister understands all this ...

- In general, the entire economy of the Ministry of Defense ... After that, why shouldn't you really trust the region. The responsibility is a hundred times less ... Besides, maybe thank God that this lump fell off my shoulders in a month ...

- On the one hand, yes! .. And on the other ...

- Did you yourself analyze what actually happened? Why such a leap is not clear either sideways, or up, or down.

- Analyzed. Fair?

- Yes.

- I am still analyzing.

- It's fair.

- Only one person knows about it. I understand: there is still a situation with the governor of the Tula region ... And in fact, most likely, an amazing combination of circumstances ... And Gruzdev did a lot for the region, and they wear him there. He is a distinguished person there. From the worker, from the grandmother to the heads of districts, he is respected, he is a serious manager.

- In general, you did not say "no" again.

- I couldn't say, because I ... When I was offered this position, I was a military man, and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief set this task to me. And it never happened that when he set tasks for me to say "no". Maybe inside I had some desire to say something, but I said "is." After all, life has changed dramatically more than once. I will work to make it work.

- How long have you been married?

- About 18 years, it seems, it is necessary to clarify.

- At your wife?

- Yes. The child goes to the fifth grade in Moscow. A son.

- And where will he go to school now?

- For the whole last year, he was preparing to enter a specialized school with a mathematical bias. Year. These are tutors, this is participation in mathematical olympiads, this is a chess club ... it was in parallel with the football section ... so now he didn’t just enter this school. And I would not want to break the fate of a child because of my own fate. Naturally, he will stay and continue his studies in Moscow.

- We went to VDNKh with a group of comrades, she was with a group of friends ... It was some kind of holiday, I don't remember now, summer ... Cute girls went ...

- Day of the Airborne Forces? ..

- No-no! .. I thought it would be an episodic situation, but it turned out that it was not episodic at all.

- So what can the Tula people expect from you in the near future? There will be no quick personnel changes, as you said in Tula? Or will there be no fast ones?

- There will be no revolutionary movements, no Moscow landings, this is unambiguous. And I think that the team that is working there now is very good.

- Or maybe it would be nice to refresh the team? Any team needs it.

- In order to refresh and make such decisions, you must understand the situation, namely, what is happening on earth. And you need to understand it not from words and not from the first glances, you need to understand, you need to work hard and understand, in general, what is happening. And after that, only make some decisions, if they are needed.

- And when to work, when, if elections are already on the way? September 18? It's time to prepare for the elections ...

- I have already begun to work.

- Yes, that's understandable ...

- Elections are elections, but, naturally, I will try to pay attention to my duties first of all. And for me it is very important, of course, this state of mind of the population ... and the security of those people for whom I will be responsible. And this is a very difficult task. I know firsthand, I have acquaintances Tula, that they are such a rather very spirited people, and with its own core, with its own character, it is very difficult to earn trust so that they can believe in you ...

- That is, I realized that you, of course, go to the elections. In a crisis, it will be all the more difficult to earn trust. But we can assume that you have the same federal resource, which many governors do not have. Has worked ...

- Well, maybe this is loudly said about the federal resource, but based on my work and based on the experience gained ... well, there is nothing to hide here, some ministers and leaders with whom I came into contact are in their posts ... But That's a very difficult question. I will not abuse it.

- You said that you have known Vladimir Gruzdev for a long time.

- Yes. And we have a lot of mutual friends with him. There was even a period of time, and he stayed where we, let's say, went in for sports under one roof ... I don’t want to say that we are friends with families, but we are quite in friendly, warm relations.

- But he told you in general how to settle in a new place, which shops to go to, cafes? ..

- Well, of course! We sat down with him on the day of my inauguration, after all the meetings and events, getting to know the government ... At six o'clock in the evening we sat down and left the office at about half past one in the morning. These were all topics, ending with everyday ones. You can, of course, take a suit and an alarming suitcase and just move 180 kilometers ... But still, this is a change in living conditions, various things that you are used to ... And this, I think, will last for a long time.

- Do you know what you will be doing in the coming days?

- Now trips will be permanent to enterprises, cities, villages - in general, such a very rich program, rather serious. I think we need to propose a five-year socio-economic development program and develop it. And I already have certain proposals, but I will talk about them in Tula.

- A program for five years? Are you sure you will stay in this position for five years? You know what kind of talk went on.

- Now I will work if residents and voters of the Tula region give me such an opportunity. If they believe me, I intend to implement this five-year program.

- You evade the answer ...

- No matter what I say about this, all this will be logs into the fire, which in fact does not exist ...

- Will you break through?

- But there are no options.

Interviewed by Andrey Kolesnikov